UADX-Pander - Boy did UA miss a trick here....

[Lizardpoint]

Is it just me but I really can't see the point of this product. :x

Most laptopns have got firewire ports as well as cardbus slots and surely there would be a whole lot more people ready to buy a firewire version than a cardbus one ? :?

C'mon UA ! You've got the box, now do the interface we all want !! :lol:

Better still do a small box we can put one (or two) UAD1's in.

Powercore, Duende and Liquidmix are all firewire units.

The UAD1 is the odd one out..... :x

Have I missed the point or did UA miss the point ? :?:

Lizardpoint

 

[Tony Ostinato]

isnt there a limitation in firewire where you cant go above 96 sample rate?

that would mean you cant use it for uad plugins.

 

[Spacey]

My Audiofire12 goes to 192khz and that's firewire. But I have enough trouble with firewire sound cards, I wouldn't want to strain the bandwidth anymore.

I know firewire can use huge bandwidth, but it just doesn't seem up to the task in the real world to run many firewire devices on 1 pc.

Pci-e card based card (with 4 x uad-1 power) or expander would be best.

 

[bulls hit]

isnt there a limitation in firewire where you cant go above 96 sample rate?

that would mean you cant use it for uad plugins.

No. The Liquid Mix with expansion dsp card will do 8 instances @ 192KHz over firewire 400

 

[afone1977]

UA says firewire will not be their solution for external DSP rack

also don't expect any firewire UA' s rack

 

[F5D]

They should have designed an external box / rack with 4 uad1's inside, not just 1. It's imo useless if you use a desktop computer.

Anyway, firewire is not a very good solution for a dsp card. I've seen it with powercore firewire. It's not stable enough and uses more native cpu than pci powercore. UA should make a pci / pcie-card + cable to a box with 4 uad1's.

 

[Cat5]

They should have designed an external box / rack with 4 uad1's inside, not just 1. It's imo useless if you use a desktop computer.

Anyway, firewire is not a very good solution for a dsp card. I've seen it with powercore firewire. It's not stable enough and uses more native cpu than pci powercore. UA should make a pci / pcie-card + cable to a box with 4 uad1's.

You mean a UAD branded Magma basically? i think they expressed in the past that they didn't want to reinvent the wheel. Plus, it would most likely have to be a Magma licensed product, and we all know how expensive that would be.

 

[F5D]

They should have designed an external box / rack with 4 uad1's inside, not just 1. It's imo useless if you use a desktop computer.

Anyway, firewire is not a very good solution for a dsp card. I've seen it with powercore firewire. It's not stable enough and uses more native cpu than pci powercore. UA should make a pci / pcie-card + cable to a box with 4 uad1's.

You mean a UAD branded Magma basically? i think they expressed in the past that they didn't want to reinvent the wheel. Plus, it would most likely have to be a Magma licensed product, and we all know how expensive that would be.

Well it wouldn't have to be an expansion chassis but just an external unit with 4 uad1 chips inside and a cable + card to the computer. So it wouldn't need to be a magma licensed product. UA already have a cable + card for the host computer so why not make a box with 4 chips inside (not just 1!) with the same principle.

I don't want to buy a second hand magma case which is big and loud and the new ones cost way too much. 1 computer case is enough for me. I bet that 4 uad1 chips would easily go into a 2u rack (even in 1u rack).

 

[Spacey]

This I would buy!!!!

 

[neil wilkes]

isnt there a limitation in firewire where you cant go above 96 sample rate?

that would mean you cant use it for uad plugins.

No.
FireWire can easily do 192KHz, the LiquidMix does and so does the Focusrite Saffire Pro interface.
The problem with FireWire is that the bandwidth is far less than PCIe is, it's less than straight PCI is come to think of it.
Plus it's flaky.

 

[Cabbage]

UA claim that they have choosen the ExpressCard design (over FW) because of the extra bandwidth. The current UAD X-pander does not need that extra bandwidth, so I guess it is not a too wild a guess to say that there is a more powerful external box coming.

I agree, at the moment ExpressCard does not make sense, but it will...

Petter

 

[robi]

I don't see any use for the xpander. Actually, there is a 2 rackunit option for 4 Uad-1s out for a long time now that interfaces with cardbus/pcmcia, xpresscard 34/54, pci and pciexpress. It's called a magma 4 slot pci expansion and costs very little used and removing the fans from it makes it noiseless. So, if one has the cards it would be rediculouse to xgrade to a xpander. 1000$ for one card the xpander gives you or 300$ for a magma with lots of options... Even if they put 4 chips in this xpander, powerwise there is nothing to gain and what would be the price for this? 4000$? :lol: