I just saw this on the BBC - Are we having fun yet?

severe

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PANICK!!

After immediately powering down my PC, I’ll be continuing communication here on the forum at The Philadelphia Free Library until this issue is resolved.
 

Don Schenk

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Apple fixed this in their dec. release
So the BBC is a little slow. Ahh, but I didn't upgrade to High Sierra yet. Oh wait, it was the security update back in December. Okay.

Something strange has been happening on my Mac, and I wonder if it is related to the change. My MBP almost never ran its cooling fan - even if I was playing 60 tracks with UAD as well as native plug-ins on each track. The only things that would cause the fan to run were rendering all tracks to stems of each track simultaneously, and freezing all the tracks at once. Nothing else would make the fan run. In fact the first time it ran I wondered what that sound was.

Now the fan runs almost all the time, and it just recently started doing that. Hmmm, could that be it?

:- Don
 

Rolle123

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So the BBC is a little slow. Ahh, but I didn't upgrade to High Sierra yet. Oh wait, it was the security update back in December. Okay....

:- Don
No, no it’s just hitting the news cycles now and the flaw has been there for some time, so...🙈

I usally reinstall the OS when I feel the clutter.
 

Gerk

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The one flaw has been there for decades ... starting to see people having real world problems (and slowdowns) after these updates in quite a few situations. The update in December fixed for part of it, the newest update for OSX fixes the other part of it (and is what started causing some apparent issues for some users). This is a tough one and it will affect different things different, but the slowdowns will be real for some things and not noticeable for others. Things that are heavily threaded will see the biggest slowdowns.
 

Matt Hepworth

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I hate to be so negative, but I think Apple is jumping up and down with joy at the thought of all the new Mac sales that are coming their way by not patching older versions of MacOS.

This from a person who currently owns 5 Macs. MS has patched back through Windows 7. That's a lot older than ML (10.8.5), let alone Yosemite, yet not even Sierra is fully patched. Only High Sierra. Ludicrous.
 

Matt Hepworth

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The one flaw has been there for decades ... starting to see people having real world problems (and slowdowns) after these updates in quite a few situations. The update in December fixed for part of it, the newest update for OSX fixes the other part of it (and is what started causing some apparent issues for some users). This is a tough one and it will affect different things different, but the slowdowns will be real for some things and not noticeable for others. Things that are heavily threaded will see the biggest slowdowns.
The problem is the issue is so public that it is guaranteed there will now be exploits created for the vulnerability. This is the first time ever such a situation has occurred, as far as I'm aware. It's a catastrophic probable outcome. The "bad guys" know that only the latest OSes are patched and they know that millions and millions of computers in the world are now vulnerable to this exploit and that it WON'T be patched for those computers. That's a guaranteed, permanent vulnerability.
 

Gerk

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I hate to be so negative, but I think Apple is jumping up and down with joy at the thought of all the new Mac sales that are coming their way by not patching older versions of MacOS.

This from a person who currently owns 5 Macs. MS has patched back through Windows 7. That's a lot older than ML (10.8.5), let alone Yosemite, yet not even Sierra is fully patched. Only High Sierra. Ludicrous.
Yes not to mention the fact that this almost basically enforces retirement of all of my EOL macs, which get used daily and some I rely on. I think it means that some of them are going to actively be blocked from any sort of internet access in fact :( It's the only safe way of keeping them working.

The problem is the issue is so public that it is guaranteed there will now be exploits created for the vulnerability. This is the first time ever such a situation has occurred, as far as I'm aware. It's a catastrophic probable outcome. The "bad guys" know that only the latest OSes are patched and they know that millions and millions of computers in the world are now vulnerable to this exploit and that it WON'T be patched for those computers. That's a guaranteed, permanent vulnerability.
Yep exactly, I can see lots of these bad guys just rubbing their hands together with a gleam in their eyes and all of us who don't want to or can't upgrade to the latest (which is having issues all around apparently) left with time bombs on their hands. Due to the nature of how this exploit works it's a very very bad thing. Like we might as well all just post a web page with all of our private information and credit card numbers now to get it over with bad.
 

maximus

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There's something good to be said about living on the bleeding edge after all !
 
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