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    macOS 10.13 High Sierra

    I'm troubled by the fact that UAD is never prepared for these Mac upgrades. When El Capitan upgraded to Sierra, UAD took several months to upgrade their software. It's a bit frustrating.

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    I did notice that the UAD H910 Harmonizer plugin doesnt work with High Sierra, the plugin loads.. but sound seems to just pass through it.. without processing..... anyone else has this?
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    I refuse to upgrade to High Sierra! Last time I upgraded from El Capitan to Sierra, I had to buy a different preamp. I couldn't use my Apollo Twin for like three months! Ouch.
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    Ho hum here we go again.... Theres a new OS-X out and the grumbles about UA not being ready are already starting.... Would it be possible to move all of the unhappy that UA are not ready for High Sierra threads to the Unrest Department?

    I have no idea why anybody would want to upgrade either before or on the day that a new OS drops, but my Macs are dedicated to music production, so I probably don't understand.

    If you are serious about using your Mac for music production then a new Mac OS should make no difference to your workflow and there is no requirement to upgrade. Most of the big music software companies take many months to qualify their software and UA taking time to qualify their software is the norm, not the exception and these types of delays are a reality of the music software business.

    I am more concerned that Apple think we need a new OS every year.
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    I don't recall saying I was unhappy but feel free to jump to your own conclusions. The upgrades work with all other preamps and it gets a little frustrating waiting for UA. That said, I LOVE the Apollo Twin and am still a fan of the company. And I agree with you on Apple having to constantly upgrade the OS every year.

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    macOS 10.13 High Sierra

    I know UA was one of the later companies to get Sierra compatibility, and I know they listen and try to improve. However, people tend to think that the OS goes through very few changes prior to release. That is far from accurate. Even now Apple just completely removed support for their new file system for the many thousands of Fusion Drive users (most iMacs). This was working in previous beta builds, but is now removed. Worse, for the beta community to move past their old beta build they actually have to backup, reformat the drive, and restore from backup. The release is right around the corner and that just happened to APPLE products at the last minute.

    Changes like this are happening constantly up until the actual release. For all we know UA was ready to go last time until Apple dropped a similar last minute change in the OS (like the sudden security switch).

    It's a very widespread issue with everyone demanding the updates, updates, updates from Apple because people are used to software never being finished anymore, but rather in a constant state of flux.

    Ironically, that pressure to update, update, update from the masses played right into Apples hands and lets them force computer purchases because the barely three year old system can't run the currently available version of OS or software like FCP, Logic, etc.
    This can be confirmed by seeing their computer sales are up in some categories, but their user-base/market share hasn't increased (it's actually decreased, slightly, the last report I read).

    With the yearly new OS releases, it actually means that users have less than 6 months of system stability in a year. This is a ludicrous trend that we definitely shouldn't be embracing or supporting.
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    macOS 10.13 High Sierra

    Yes it’s a drag that Apple every year has a new OS upgrade...BUT this OS is a major change for Apple moving forward, it’s a totally new file system..so like it or not you either stay where you are, because for some they may not be able to upgrade due to legacy Apple hardware...old Mac Pros etc... HFS + was introduced in 1998 and back then there was no OS X this is a major shift forward in Apple computing ..like it or not..I remember the pain of the OS X transition so the new file system will lead the way forward with the new hardware of today


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    macOS 10.13 High Sierra

    Quote Originally Posted by tlockett View Post
    Yes it’s a drag that Apple every year has a new OS upgrade...BUT this OS is a major change for Apple moving forward, it’s a totally new file system..so like it or not you either stay where you are, because for some they may not be able to upgrade due to legacy Apple hardware...old Mac Pros etc... HFS + was introduced in 1998 and back then there was no OS X this is a major shift forward in Apple computing ..like it or not..I remember the pain of the OS X transition so the new file system will lead the way forward with the new hardware of today


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    It's a totally new file system that's no longer compatible with Apple's *current* Fusion Drives used in most iMacs and lots of Mac Books.

    https://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2017...fusion-drives/
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    Quote Originally Posted by Matt Hepworth View Post
    It's a totally new file system that's no longer compatible with Apple's current Fusion Drives used in most iMacs and lots of Mac Books.

    https://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2017...fusion-drives/
    Thanks for all the great info in this thread, guys!

    We are not through testing High Sierra but in an effort to be proactive, we just published a Knowledge Base article regarding upgrading - please check it out.

    https://help.uaudio.com/hc/en-us/articles/115004808426

    We know of on issue with installing on fresh systems, but there may be other issues that we're not aware of, so of course, our recommendation is to hold off until we complete our grid and announce it is good to go.

    But, we also know that many people are anxious to upgrade to the latest OS.

    Initial tests are favorable, so if you do upgrade, good luck and let us know if you run into any bugs.

    Thanks for your patience and stay tuned for more information.

    Cheers!

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    macOS 10.13 High Sierra

    If it makes you feel any better GK, Avid’s forum is/will have the same banter....

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